Devotee:
Pranam, Gurudev.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Blessings, my child. Blessings. Go ahead.
Devotee:
Ghatak Babu is also here with us.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Yes, I see him.
Devotee:
Gurudev, in these recent times we are living through, there is despair everywhere.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Cryingā¦ there is only crying. I can hear the sound of crying everywhere. It feels very painful.
Devotee:
Just now, while I was sitting here, you received a phone call. A woman was crying because her husband was being taken away in an ambulance. She was asking, āGurudev, what will happen?ā And before that, you mentioned receiving another call around 3:00 AM.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Yes, around 3:00 AM. A call came about the Corona situation. They were crying, āSave me, save me!ā What can I even say to that?
Devotee:
It feels so heavy. We are passing through a strange, dark time. Is there any ray of hope? Anything for the future?
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
I said once beforeāthe state we have reached now is like a world of "nothingness." Everything is there, yet nothing is there. You can see it, canāt you? Food, clothes, peopleāeverything exists. But there is no real education, no culture, nothing left. And as for what is comingā¦ I thought I would try to do something, but after looking at the almanac, my head is spinning even more.
Devotee:
Why is that?
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
In the almanac, it is written that for this period, Shani (Saturn) is the King and Mangal (Mars) is the Minister. Two rivals are paired together. They are completely opposite forces. Mars will strike and cause bloodshed and conflict, while Saturn will say, āCome to God, come to me.ā Saturn is pure. Saturn doesnāt kill, but he forces you to realize God. True God-realization doesnāt happen without Saturn's influence.
Devotee:
Do you mean that people who never called upon or thought about God before will now do so under this pressure?
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
There is no other way. You donāt understand. The days that are comingāor rather, the days that are already hereāleave only one path open: calling upon God's name. People will forget about eating and drinking. The crying I seeā¦ the world is weeping while the Mother [Goddess] is smiling. This is what is so painful to me. I already said before 2021 that this year would be terrible for me. I knew I wouldn't be able to do anything. I have surrendered. Even the power of people like us is being taken away by God. He won't grant us power right now; He won't let us keep it. Because this is a time of deathātruly, a time of death.
Devotee:
You said Saturn leads us toward spirituality and God...
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Exactly. That is Saturnās nature.
Devotee:
Then won't something good (Mangal) eventually come of this?
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Something good? Mars is sitting there as the Minister. Whatever the King says, the Minister won't listen; and whatever the Minister says, the King won't listen. The cabinet has dissolved, do you understand? The cabinet has dissolved.
Devotee:
But I am asking, if we ordinary people, driven by Saturn's influence, become devotees and pray to God...
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
You have to. It isn't a choice of "if." You must do it. You absolutely must.
Devotee:
But will we get a response?
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
During a time of cataclysm (pralaya), Godāaccording to the planetary pactādoes not appear or intervene to help. This is the strategy. I have said this before. This is a pandemic (atimari); it hasn't even reached the stage of a great plague (mahamari) yet. In such times, God remains silent. Even if you spend millions for worship, nothing will happen. Nothing at all. People are calling me from Canada. Just before this, someone called from America. Someone from Canada called to ask if there is a cure. Canada is under lockdown too. Only the essential markets are openāfish and vegetables. Everything else is closed. It isn't just us lamenting; the whole world is. I don't know what the final outcome will be. This pandemic is ongoing, and it could still turn into a great plague. One cannot say for sure.
Devotee:
But as human beings, we turn to people like you, to seekers (sadhaks)...
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Yes, tell me.
Devotee:
Everyone is looking for answers.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
You saw that a massive sacrificial fire (hom) was held at Tarapith. Now, a fire is being held here. Why? I am telling people to burn parboiled rice and raw turmeric. I say it repeatedly. It increases oxygen levels. I believe inhaling that prevents Corona from entering the body.
Devotee:
Can anyone do this at home, even without a formal ritual?
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Why not? Of course, they can. This is actually a South Indian practice. They do this in the morningāburning parboiled rice and turmeric. Their belief is that it increases oxygen and keeps germs away. They have firm faith in it. We are doing it too. You saw it yourself just now; you participated in the ritual with turmeric and rice.
Devotee:
Those of us near you are doing these things under your guidance. But still, such a deep fear has taken hold of us that we cannot escape it.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Look, when a cataclysm arrives, God takes away the power of the seekers. If people are meant to die, how can you save them? It would be a contradiction. If the divine or the planets say, āI will kill,ā who are you to save them? That is why our power is taken away. My power has been taken.
Devotee:
Does "cataclysm" mean the final end? The end of a whole cycle?
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
We don't know. One era (yuga) has ended. We are saying Satya Yuga has begun. Satya, Treta, Dwapara, Kaliā¦ for us, Kali Yuga has ended. Satya Yuga follows.
Devotee:
But if Kali Yuga is ending, what about the Kalki Avatar? Will he come? Has he arrived?
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
No, that is a misunderstanding. The Kalki Avatar has already come and gone. Do not imagine that Kalki will walk among us and kiss your cheek. It doesn't work that way. The Puranas say that Kali is now meditating in the Himalayas. When that meditation ends, he will go to Vaishno Devi and marry the Mother Goddess. Only then will Kali Yuga truly vanish. Can you see any of this? No. Can you see him meditating or getting married? You cannot. But according to the almanac, the end has occurred. Kali is over. Now, Satya [Truth] will emerge. But Kali has left a legacy that must be broken. Satya will break it, but through a great cataclysm. What we see now might just be the precursor; a greater cataclysm may follow. It will happen through this COVID. More germs will come. People are calling this "biological warfare." No bullets or explosives are needed. No nuclear charges. People simply die. It is said that when Kali leaves and Satya enters, there must be a cataclysm. Satya cannot enter without it. Now that Satya has arrived, there will be a clash between falsehood and truth. It will be severe. We thought COVID had gone, that it wouldn't return. But it came back, and on a much larger scale. If a third phase comes... we are struggling with the second, I don't know what will happen. A third phase would be even more severe. It is said that three types of suffering will awaken now: Bhoutik (elemental/physical), Adhibhoutik (supernatural/plagues), and Daivik (divine/natural disasters). You will have to suffer all three. Bhoutik refers to things like seeing ghosts or hearing strange noises in your house. You might go to a tantric to stop it, and they might help. Then comes Adhibhoutik, which is the Corona you see today. All major diseases will manifest now. Then there is Daivikāearthquakes, storms, floodsāthings in God's hands, not ours. An earthquake is divine. Severe cyclones and storms are divine. We have to suffer all three at once. Previously, we might suffer one or two; now, it is all three. And the gods will not let us go easily. They will cause a terrible destruction. The message is: "If you can, kill the humans." People like us have been rendered mute. Our power is gone. There is no difference between you and me now. We can do nothing. I said this back in 2020.
Devotee:
Gurudev, regarding this journey from cataclysm to a "great cataclysm"...
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
A great cataclysm is different. If that happens, not even Brahma, Vishnu, or Maheshwar can save anyone. Only Adyashakti Mahamaya [the Primordial Mother] can intervene. Even the lords of creation, preservation, and destruction cannot save us then; they themselves will call upon the Mother.
Devotee:
Has that time come?
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
It has. It is mentioned in the Mahanirvana Tantra. Lord Mahadeva himself said it. The Nirvana Tantra says that in such times, you must only call upon Adya. Mahadeva himself is in meditation; he says to call upon the Mother.
Devotee:
By calling upon the Mother, can we overcome the remaining thousands of years?
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
That is different. The world itself won't be destroyed. It might last another 15,000 years. But the human raceā¦ the human race is facing destruction. Will people remain as "seeds" to start anew? Surely, they will. But for now, everything is inactive. The planets and stars are saying, āWe will bring destruction now, do not interfere. Sit quietly. If you try to be too clever, death is inevitable.ā This is the rule. No amount of money spent on worship will make God intervene right now. This is the pact between the planets, God, and humanity. When the planets punish humanity, God remains silent.
Devotee:
If God remains silent, then Ghatak Babu, I ask you... Gurudev says we are helpless and science has failed. But we also have vaccines now. People are taking them. God won't come down to give vaccines directly; He works through people. Isn't science also a divine discovery?
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
People who took both vaccine shots have still died. How did they die? They took both.
Ghatak Babu:
Gurudev mentioned before that the vessel of sin for humanity is full in this Kali Yuga. We are entering a new era that is clashing with the old one. Regarding the failure of scienceāthese biological wars and viruses are created by scientists. We have seen before that scientists make discoveries they later regret. Think of the atomic bomb. After it was made, they realized how harmful it was for civilization. We know the tragedy of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Today, every powerful nation has nuclear weapons. These biological agents are also weapons. Scientists researched and created them, and later, the same people created what we call a vaccine. In reality, it is an immunity booster. It doesn't prevent the disease; it just gives you some strength to fight it. That is why we see people with underlying health issues still dying.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Did people in the past lack immunity? They had more, in fact. This isn't just about immunity; those are just stories. The truth is that the Divine is angry. The vessel of sin is full, and now He is striking. There is a saying, "the Master's final blow." He is delivering it now. Anyone might dieāyou, me, or anyone else. It is what it is.
Devotee:
Still, as ordinary people and devotees, we look to people like you for hope.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
What can we do? We can perform rituals to try and "arrest" the virus. Science has failed, so now we turn to spirituality. We pray to the Mother. Every moment we ask her to take this away. We perform sacrificial fires where we can. But is the virus decreasing? It is increasing every day.
Devotee:
But those who come to you are being helped.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
It doesn't matter who comes to me. Think of the world. Think of the peopleāthe lamentation and the crying. I can hear it in every phone call. It is nothing but crying.
Devotee:
If the Adya Stotram [Hymn to the Mother] that you perform were done on a global scale...
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
It won't work if only one person does it. Others are doing it too; I'm not saying they aren't. Every major temple performs these rituals daily. But so far, nothing effective has come of it.
Ghatak Babu:
If the virus is a product of science, then according to our beliefs, it was predetermined. It was destined that scientists would create this, and later create boosters. But if we don't transition to the next era, if we don't overcome this state, another such virus may come. This conflict must reach its conclusion. Read the Mahanirvana Tantra. Lord Mahadeva spoke of this time. He said to worship Adya and no one else. He urged us to recite the Adya Stotram repeatedly. There is a reason for that.
Devotee:
Gurudev has given us a direction: Adya. Reciting the hymn. Perhaps individuals cannot do it alone, but as Gurudev might agree, if local temples played the hymn on microphones at a set time... if we call upon God collectively, it must have an effect.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
There is a vibration; the vibration is certainly there. My biggest mistake was becoming "Gurudev." Who can bear to hear so much crying? From the morning, it is nothing but grief. Every call is about someone having COVID or someone dying. I can't stand it anymore.
Devotee:
So, we have a ray of hope: we will call upon Mother Adya to the best of our ability. Even if we can't recite the whole hymn, we can just call out her name.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
It has been said clearly. Lord Mahadeva said in the Mahanirvana Tantra: āIn this terrible time, remember Adya every moment.ā Be a worshiper of the Primordial Power.
Devotee:
We also request you, Gurudevāas we do our part, please also speak to the Mother on our behalf.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
I will tell you one thing: when we do our work, we don't tell anyone. No one will ever know. Not even a bird will sense it. We are working, but we aren't seeing the full response yet. However, I have received a message from the Mother that it will decrease. Because we are pleading with her, she told me, āYou will see it decrease significantly in May and June.ā May has already begun. I heard this clearly. She said the intensity and this frightening span will subside during these months. But people must also be conscious. People have sinned, yet they remain unconscious of the danger. Everyone should follow the doctors' advice and take this disease seriously. If instead of being careful, people ignore the risks, then what happens is their own doing. No one else is responsible; humanity has fallen into a pit of its own making.
Devotee:
At least here, at the Shantipith, we have found some hope from Gurudev, the seeker Sri Syama Khapa. We will all call upon Mother Adya with devotion. And we hope he will also pray for us.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
I will try. I won't just let it go. I am performing the rituals. I am doing everything possible to stop this virus. It's just that it hasn't been stopped yet.
Devotee:
Pranam, Gurudev.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Blessings to all.