Host:
Greetings to our viewers. I begin today's episode by offering my respect (Pranam) to Mother Bamatar of Shantikunjo. Welcome to the 'Gupta Sadhak Shama Khyapa' YouTube channel. A warm thank you to our long-time friends and followers. We are starting today's episode. Pranam, Gurudev.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Pranam, my son, Pranam.
Host:
Gurudev, we often observe something here. Many people come running to you out of their devotion to you, or perhaps to seek a vision (Darshan) of the Mother. This is Shantikunjo, a temple where Mother Dakshina Kali resides. Yet, we see many people rushing directly to you to fulfill their own interests without even visiting the Mother first. And once they receive your grace and their problems are solved, they seem to forget you. Why does this happen?
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
This is simply human nature. My role is to wish well for everyone. Whether they wish me well or not is not my concern. Should I stop doing my work just because someone might not reciprocate?
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
There is a saying: "A dog has done its job by biting a person's leg; but does a human ever bite a dog back?" It doesn't suit a human's nature. If people forget me, let them. At least someone will remember—and that is enough. Even if people don't remember, God (Uporwala) will. I have learned one thing from the sages: "Do good for the people, and the One above will look after you."
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
I help people, and they get better. God looks after me. I don't need people to come to me or keep track of me. There is no need for that. Some people say, "You help so many, yet they don't even come to see you or say a kind word." Comments like these come often. In the past, there were negative comments or dislikes, but now even those are gone.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
I won't say people don't love me—they do. But many come only for their own selfish interests. They come here and don't even visit the deity; they come straight to me. This makes me quite angry. I tell them, "Go visit the Mother first! Pay your respects to the One you came to see, then come to me." I am a secondary matter.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
You have come to God's door. You are essentially a beggar. Tell the Mother: "Mother, a beggar has arrived at your door. Please grant me some alms." This is what one should say. I say the same thing to the Mother: "A beggar has come, please give him something." There is nothing better than this humility. It is a way to call upon God and seek forgiveness at the same time.
Host:
We often notice this when we are with you. You often scold people, telling them to go sit with the Mother first.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Yes, I tell them: "Go, sit before the Mother for a while. Tell Her your heart's troubles. Then come to me, and I will see what I can do." But they don't want to do that. They see me from a distance and rush straight to me to touch my feet, ignoring the Mother. I don't like that. You are at Shantikunjo—the Mother's home. Ask Her for grace first.
Host:
Your message is clear: The Mother comes before the son.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Exactly. First, the Mother. Sit with Her, pray to Her, and then we shall see.
Host:
But Gurudev, we see people who have been healed by your grace, yet they forget you afterward. While you take it lightly, it hurts us to see it.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
That is their business. Even my relatives and friends ask, "Why do you do so much for them? What is the gain? You are taking their sins upon yourself."
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
I tell them that someone has to save these distressed and sinful people. Whether through initiation (Diksha) or through the Mother's grace, they must be helped.
Host:
You use your spiritual powers (Tantric powers) to protect them.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
I do. People say things, but I don't mind. It does feel a bit sad sometimes when I think about who I am doing all this for. But then again, when I was ill, some people did come to see me. Some helped me financially, otherwise, I might not have survived.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Not everyone is the same. There is a mix of good and bad people in this world. That doesn't mean I should stop everything. Whether they come back or not doesn't matter. I tell my followers: "Keep going. Help people as much as you can." God has given me this "soil" of the cremation ground—I offer it in the name of Mother Kali or Mother Tara, and people get better. They come back and tell me, "Baba, I am cured." I see it with my own eyes.
Host:
Dear viewers, we often feel bad when we witness these things while staying with Gurudev. That is why I asked him for his thoughts today. Through this episode, he has shared his heart with all of us. Pranam, Gurudev.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Pranam, my son. Pranam. Pranam.