Disclaimer: This is not in favor of any particular political party, nor is it a condemnation of any. This video is made solely to express a personal opinion: what is Gurudev's opinion on this heinous crime against humanity. The views expressed are spiritual in nature and advocate for justice through proper investigation and exemplary punishment.
Interviewer:
Gurudev, my respects to you.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Bless you, my son.
Interviewer:
Gurudev, just a few days ago, we witnessed a heinous incident here in Bengal. Many critics have spoken, but it is being said that the intellectuals are all silent. Since you are more enlightened than most people today, how do you view this incident?
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
There is nothing much to view here. Look, the government knows everything, and the administration knows everything too. This happened with their full knowledge. From what I see, I'm saying it didn't happen without their knowledge; the administration knew. Everyone in the administration knew. Today, the administration is being blamed. People like Anubrata Mondal and others are being arrested, the CBI is arresting them and taking their statements. But actually, this is a shameful incident. Such incidents have rarely happened in India. They have happened, I won't say they haven't, but currently, under the Mamata government, this is an absolute failure. I would say it's a total failure. And for this, the common people had to pay the price.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Some say eight people died, others say ten. Regardless of whether it's eight or ten, people did die. We have no security. We can't say for sure that we won't die tomorrow from a bomb or a bullet. Bombs and bullets are being found in various places. Different things are being found. It happened in Sagar recently, and it's being found extensively in Berhampore now. We won't call ourselves intellectuals; we are people who contemplate God. Yet, humans are God too. When humans face trouble, we try to speak up.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
We think about how they died like thisâso many people were burnt to death. This wasn't something people didn't know; it wasn't unplanned. Everyone knew. Now there's a tug-of-war involving Anubrata Mondal and that other gentleman. Everyone is being pulled in. But if the administration had been functioning correctly from the start, this incident wouldn't have happened. It was orchestrated, and it was a pre-planned event. And in the future, more such incidents will occur. The government or the administration will be responsible for them.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Mamata Didi thinks she's done by just saying something, or providing a job, or giving some money to hush up the matter. She will try to cover up the sin. But will that resolve anything? I don't think it will. Mamata Didi might provide some money or a job for a family member and settle it, as has happened before. But this way, people's security is gradually diminishing.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
What security is there? Tell me. There is no security, nothing. The state of the country is already very bad. Not just the country, the whole world is in a bad state. What Russia did to UkraineâUkraine won't be able to stand on its feet for the next fifty years. It's been ruined. There was a good education system there, medical studies were goodâthat's ruined too. It seems there's a tendency to destroy whatever good exists. It's the same here.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
A Hindu-Muslim riot might not happen, but this has turned into a shameful event. I have no words to describe how this was organized; I still can't understand it.
Interviewer:
Gurudev, actually, there are bulletproof jackets to protect against bullets, and there are experts to diffuse bombs. But it was the human brain that caused such brutality. The human mentality has reached a point where someone didn't think twice before burning so many people to death. What is the solution to this?
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
There is no solution. They know nothing will happen to themâDidi is there, the administration is over their heads. This is how they get their courage. People are gaining courage because "Didi is there, what do I have to worry about?" But Didi isn't considering that these things are ultimately harmful for her too. In the future, if such incidents keep happening, people might call for President's rule. That wouldn't be good for us either, and we don't want that.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
We want peaceful coexistence as it was before. No one needs to lay a hand on anyone else. Some things happened in the past for money or due to the sand mafia, coal mafiaâI won't deny that people died then too. But this is something else entirely.
Interviewer:
Gurudev, when that video was released and shown on the news, showing burnt bodies being recovered one by one, one couldn't even eat at home the next day thinking about it. People are disgusted that such individuals are living among us with such low mentalities.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Absolutely. This didn't develop in a day. It took time. And they have the audacity to think, "Nothing will happen to me. I'll burn 10, 20, or 50 people, and nothing will happen." If this isn't stopped, something even more horrific will happen in the future. There's no doubt about it. So, you all should be ready. If this can happen, another one won't take long.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Bombs and ammunition are being found everywhere. People are bringing them out. It happened in Sagar a few days ago, and bombs are being found in every other house in Berhampore. There are pistols, bulletsâeverything. This isn't a good sign for us. Maybe Berhampore won't come here, but it's our state, our Chief Minister, our everything. I don't want to say it, but I'm forced to. When it hurts, like a blister on the skin, you can't ignore it.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
It happened before, I admit, and it's happening now. This cannot be accepted.
Interviewer:
Gurudev, these can be seen as trigger points. When someone commits a murder and doesn't get punished, the next person won't hesitate to kill. If these criminals get away through some loophole, it becomes a trigger point for others who will see that they can commit such heinous crimes and get away with it. People are already losing faith in the law. Mamata Didi has left it to the CBI, but the CBI has its limits. They can't move much further; they will be blocked. They can't work independently.
Interviewer:
If the CBI could work independently, they would have sorted this out. But many will escape through loopholes. Don't think they won't. These people will grow into even bigger threats, and the consequences will be terrifying. Today it was their house; tomorrow it could be ours. We should keep that in mind.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
There was already communal tension, but this incident is above communalism, above religion. Those who do such things don't fall into the category of humans. They don't belong to any religion; they don't believe in any God. If they believed in God, they couldn't be so brutal. They would have some fear that God is watching from above. They don't care about anything. They just commit the crime and don't think about the future. Maybe only a few will be punished. This didn't happen because of just three or four people; many more were involved.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
So, many will escape through loopholes and be ready for the next time. This is our main point: if punishment is to be given, let the CBI handle it completely. Let them investigate without control from others. They should find out everything and punish the real culprits. That's what I want from my side.
Interviewer:
And Gurudev, there's no doubt this is a heinous crime. Even those who are supporting this, directly or indirectly, should also be afraid that this won't be limited to Rampurhat; it could happen in Kolkata too.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
It can happen anywhere. I'm telling you, it's not just about Rampurhat. We should ensure such incidents don't happen in West Bengal. This is a stain on West Bengal. I cannot accept this in any way. I thought about whether to make such a video or not. Then I thought, no, a video is necessary because no one is speaking up.
Interviewer:
Gurudev, this incident is in a very sensitive place now. If anyone says anything even slightly off, the media has become very sensitive, and there are many ways to silence people. We are all living in fear now.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
We are all fearful.
Interviewer:
In that context, it's important to speak as neutrally as possible.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
What can we do? We feel the need to speak and criticize. If we don't, we feel a pang in our conscienceâthat such an incident happened and we didn't say anything. This sting of conscience is not good; it will last forever. We who call upon God, we who believe in God, cannot accept such an incident. It hurts us deeply. Whether it's a Hindu or a Muslim, it doesn't matter to me. As Nazrul said, "Are they Hindu or Muslim? Who asks that? Say, a human is drowningâthe child of my mother!" This means there's no point in looking at Hindu or Muslim. People are dying.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
It doesn't matter to me if it's Hindu or Muslim; humans are dying. This is not desirable to me at all. What our Nazrul Sahib saidâwhether Hindu or Muslim, they are humans to us, children of mothers. Everyone is a child of a mother. So there's no question of Hindu or Muslim here; it's about a mother's child. If the real culprits are not punished now, a bigger storm will come in the future.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Whether it's the CBI or the governmentâCBI means government, and the government means CBIâthe moment the CBI tries to do something extra, the government will block them. Now I don't know what Mamata Didi will do or what the Central Government will do. We just criticized a bit. After all, people are dying; children of mothers are dying. We have the right to speak up. Why should people die? Why should people be burnt to death like this? Isn't there any law in India or West Bengal? Everyone knows who did it. Everyone at the top knows. It was organized, everyone knows. But now everyone is acting innocent.
Interviewer:
So, viewers, through this video, Gurudev has already expressed his criticism. This is not in support of any political color. We condemn this heinous crime. From this Shantikunja and from Gurudev's side, we hope that the perpetrators of this crime receive proper punishment. Just as the crime was an exemplary act of evil, let the punishment also be exemplary so that people think ten times and feel afraid before committing such a major crime. This is our wish and our statement through this video.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
That's our statement. We want to say that if people commit crimes again, they should remember what the punishment can be. Show us an exemplary punishment, and we will be very happy. People are dying, mothers' children are dying. I don't look at whether they are Hindu or Muslim. I see a mother's child. And Nazrul said the same thing: "A human is drowningâthe child of my mother!" What's the point of judging by Hindu or Muslim? A mother's child is dying; that's the biggest thing for me. I can certainly criticize this.
Interviewer:
My respects, Gurudev.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Bless you, my son.