Disciple:
Guru, my respects to you.
Guru:
My blessings to you, son.
Disciple:
Guru, I have a deep desire to know something today. I've heard from you that the human body has "Chakras." How many are there, and what are they?
Guru:
There are seven main chakras in our body. Among them, the primary base is the Mooladhar chakra. It is called the "Moola-adhar"âthe root foundationâwhere everything originates. Within it lies the "Seed of the Universe." In spiritual terms, it is sometimes referred to as Hal or Haladhar. Do you know what Hal means? It is the source where all seeds reside. As the Sanskrit sloka says: "Vishwa beejam nikhilam..." (The seed of the entire universe). It exists within every human being. Within everyone's Kula-Kundalini, Lord Mahadev resides. Many people might not be aware of this. I remember a beautiful song by Ramprosad that describes these seven chakras. Starting from the Mooladhar, there is the Kula-Kundalini, then the Sushumna path, Mooladhar, Swadhishthan, Manipur, Anahata, Vishuddha, Ajna, and finally the Sahasrara (the thousand-petalled lotus). Within these lie the supreme soul, the Sun, the Moon, and the five elements: Earth, Water, Fire, Air, and Ether. It also encompasses the senses: smell, taste, sight, touch, and sound, along with the organs of action and perception. This body is composed of twenty-four elements (Chaturbingshati Tattwa).
Guru:
We must journey from the Mooladhar upwards through the Kula-Kundalini, Swadhishthan, and Manipur. This process is often called Kumbhaka. Each chakra has its own distinct color. Ramprosad once sang, "Dive deep, O mind, in the name of Kali. In the fathomless waters of the heart, you will find the gems." He meant that if you don't find the jewel in one dive, dive deeper into the Kula-Kundalini. There, you will find countless gems and precious stones of the spirit. That is why he urged us to dive into the depths of the Kula-Kundalini. This is the ultimate truth. Some say many things, but I say Shiva Himself resides there. The seed of the universe is in the Mooladhar. To locate it physically, it is near the reproductive and excretory systems. That is the Mooladhar from which everything, including life itself, originates. Then there are the Swadhishthan, Manipur, Vishuddha, and so on.
Disciple:
Do these chakras have different functions as well as colors?
Guru:
Yes, they have different functions, and I have mentioned this many times. Each has a unique, transparent, and vibrant color. The real task is to awaken these chakras. Some say a Guru awakens them. I say noâyou must awaken them yourself; the Guru merely provides the touch. During initiation, the Guru touches the chakras from the base to the top to initiate the awakening. After that, it is your responsibility to work on them. We exist within these twenty-four elementsâtaste, form, smell, soundâall these senses and organs. We control these twenty-four elements within our bodies. They are used through our nose, mouth, eyes, and ears. This is spiritual science.
Interviewer:
I am sitting here with Dr. Anshuman from Amarkantak. I want to ask him: Guru has explained the seven chakras and their functions from a spiritual perspective. How would you explain this in medical terms?
Doctor:
The question you've asked has been one of the biggest questions for ages. Medical science usually doesn't speak without evidence. There are two things for which we still lack absolute evidence: birth and death. What happens after death? As inventions and research progress, we are slowly uncovering the truth. For example, what Guru said about the Mooladhar being the "Seed of the Universe" is absolutely true. Look at the location he describedâbetween the urinary and excretory systems. Guru also mentioned Shiva. In meditation, Shiva is called "Vishwa-beejam nikhilam." Shiva is described as having two and a half coils, which refers to the Vasuki or the Kundalini in a coiled form. If you look at the anatomy of that exact locationâwhich anyone can see on Google todayâyou will find a bone we call the Sacrum (the tailbone). The Mooladhar is located just above it. If you think about creation, it happens through the union of male and female. This "male energy" or "Shiva energy" matches the description.
Doctor:
Above that is the Swadhishthan chakra, located near the navel. What we call the Sushumna Nadi is actually a major nerve and blood vessel pathway. The heart and brain are the main sources. From the brain, it descends to supply the entire body and limbs. There is a large blood vessel that pulses there. Medical science observes this. The Swadhishthan chakra is situated there and controls the abdominal systemâthe intestines, the colon, and the digestive functions. When we perform detailed studies like MRI scans, we see clusters and nodes in these areas that correspond to these spiritual centers.
Doctor:
Next is the Manipur chakra. Anatomically, this is near the diaphragm. Without the diaphragm, a person cannot breathe. It acts as a border between the chest and the abdomen. The Vagus nerve passes through here, pulsing constantly. We place ECG electrodes in this area because of its vital importance.
Doctor:
Then comes the Anahata chakra, which is the Heart. It is located at the chest level. This area is very sensitive; a sudden blow to the back of a child in this area can be fatal because it directly impacts the heart.
Doctor:
Above that, in the throat, is the Vishuddha chakra. This is the center of all glands, including the pituitary gland. Guru mentioned it is shaped like a lotus and has different colorsâthis is medically accurate as different tissues have different hues in advanced imaging like myelograms. This chakra also relates to the power of speech. We often say, "Don't speak ill, for a word spoken at the right time may come true." This is because the "Hamsa" (the breath/soul) resides here.
Guru:
Yes, Ham-Sa. Martanda Bhairava... It is closely related to the Sun. We say Ham-Sa to denote the soul.
Doctor:
That is why the title Paramhansa is given to those who master this. This chakra also controls the voiceâsome have sweet voices, some deep, some resonant. A disease here causes major issues.
Doctor:
Above the throat is the Ajna chakra (the Third Eye). Here, the blood vessels move upward (the ascending aorta). If you place your hand on your temple or forehead, you can feel the pulse. This "Third Eye" area is so sensitive that it is rarely touched during surgery. In a deceased person, if you apply pressure here, it opens up.
Doctor:
When we perform a craniotomy, we see that the brain never rests, not for a single second, from birth until death. For instance, in people with vertigo or heart issues, even a fraction of a second's loss of oxygen to the brain causes them to collapse. Medical science checks this immediately. What we call the Sushumna, Ida, and Pingala are these vital nerve and vessel pathways.
Doctor:
When someone dies, we wait for a period before issuing a death certificate to ensure the Sahasrara has fully deactivated. The Sahasrara is the "thousand-petalled lotus" at the crown of the head. When a baby is born, you'll notice a soft spot on the top of the head that pulses; elders used to apply oil there. My biggest question was always where the soul enters and exits. We know the nine exits (Nabadwar), but the entry point is the crown. Medical science cannot yet explain exactly how the soul enters, but we know the heart starts beating in the womb. The soul enters through the crown (Parietal lobe) and settles in the heart. That is why the heart's rhythm is so vital.
Doctor:
Even the structure of the skull contains many "chakras" or nerve clustersâVashishtha and othersâthat control eye movement and other functions. This is a divine design; it cannot be man-made. If humans could create this, we wouldn't need things like IVF (In-Vitro Fertilization). People come to the Guru when medical science failsâwhen they can't conceive or when "eggs aren't forming."
Doctor:
One more important thing: the Mooladhar chakra is somewhat active in every human from birth; otherwise, reproduction wouldn't be possible. But the higher chakras must be awakened. If the lower chakras are overactive without the higher ones, it leads to "bad company" and base behaviors. This human structure is so complex, yet so simple once understood. Everything we see in the worldâmobiles, laptopsâwas made by humans. But who made the human? We can grow vegetables, but we cannot "make" the life within the human body. We are each a universe within ourselves. Instead of looking for the universe outside, one should look within. This is self-realization (Atma-bodh).
Interviewer:
This has been a fascinating discussion. We've heard the spiritual explanation from Guru and the medical perspective from the Doctor. It was truly enlightening. May you all stay healthy and well. Guru, my respects to you.
Guru:
Blessings to all.
Spiritual Insight
Guru Shyama Khyapa and Dr. Anshuman present a groundbreaking dialogue bridging spiritual anatomy with medical science. The chakrasâMooladhar, Swadhishthan, Manipur, Anahata, Vishuddha, Ajna, and Sahasraraâare explained as both energy centers and anatomical realities. The Mooladhar's location at the sacrum, the Vishuddha's connection to the pituitary gland, and the Sahasrara's correspondence to the soft spot on a baby's head demonstrate how ancient wisdom aligns with modern anatomy. The teaching emphasizes that the human body is a divine creation, a universe within itself, where spiritual and physical realities are one.