Devotee:
Salutations, Gurudev.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Salutations, son. Salutations.
Devotee:
Gurudev, you have come to our Shantikunj Ashram today after many days. It feels very good, and I am delighted.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Yes, yes.
Devotee:
Gurudev, could you please… wait, stop that noise. Anil-da, stop that noise first. (Background noise of construction work continues). Alright. Next Monday, actually the Monday after next, on February 19th... I hope that from that day onwards, you will be able to visit the temple for at least half an hour or an hour.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
I will come. I have already started coming. The winter is fading now. The cold is a major issue for me. I had a severe bout of cold and cough, and the doctor advised me not to catch a chill and to be careful. So, I avoided coming out. Today, I felt a bit restless. My disciple, Tulal, passed away yesterday. I am deeply saddened by this. Still, I came today because I couldn't bear staying at home any longer. I wasn't feeling good. I decided I must go today regardless. So, I came, and it was no trouble.
Devotee:
We are very happy that you came. Mother is also very happy to have her son back; her face is filled with a smile.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
That is true. Everything is fine.
Devotee:
We would like to inform our listeners and viewers that from February 19th, Gurudev will be visiting the temple to sit for half an hour or an hour.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Now, I need to get back into the habit of coming and going regularly. I must do it slowly. I was bedridden for two months due to illness. It is quite difficult now. Once I start visiting slowly, it will become a habit again. No problem. Yes, tell me.
Devotee:
Gurudev, I have a question for you today. Regarding the Ram Mandir in Ayodhya—the BJP has played a major role in its construction.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Of course. Not just the BJP, many others as well. There is the RSS and several others. Anyway, I do not want to get into political party matters. But I do have one question for our Prime Minister, Modi ji. He has established Ram's kingdom (Ram Rajatwa) and placed Ram Lalla there. But will there truly be Ram Rajatwa, or will it just be the BJP's rule? That is my only question. Will it be Ram Lalla's reign or the BJP's reign?
Devotee:
Like the Ram Rajatwa of the Treta era?
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Treta, yes. Everything that happened in the Treta era... there was sin even then. It was one-fourth sin. Sita was sent to exile, and as a virtuous woman, she had to undergo the trial by fire (Agnipariksha). These are stains on our country's history. These events occurred back then. In the Dwapara era, it was half sin and half virtue. In the Kaliyug era, it is three-fourths sin and only one-fourth virtue. This is what is happening now; this is the current trend. I don't know what the future holds. Kaliyug is terrifying. It hasn't even reached its peak or started its full work yet.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
My only question to Modi ji is: will Ram Rajatwa be truly established? Will it be as it once was, or will things simply continue as they are? This is a major question of mine. There was a song from about 60 or 70 years ago: "Come to the land of Savitri and Sita, and put an end to this injustice. There is so much sin in your world, Mother. Is this a curse or a remedy? Falsehood triumphs today, and Truth has no rights. Where is Ayodhya? Where is that Ram? Where has that virtuous one disappeared? What has happened? Beasts are now called humans. Come to the land of Savitri and Sita, and end this injustice. Isn't there thunder in your millions of hands? End the hatred. Save those who are helpless in your world. I take refuge at your feet. This path is difficult to cross." This song, written by Mukunda Das, is entirely true today.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Falsehood wins, and Truth has no victory. Ram Rajatwa is gone, Ram is gone, and the virtuous one is gone too. If virtuous women like Savitri and Sita appeared in this country and used the 'thunder' in their hands to suppress hatred and punish the wicked, it would be different. This will happen, I have no doubt. The suppression of evil and the protection of the good will surely happen.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
But my question remains: was Ram Rajatwa truly established? Will we be able to experience what Ram Rajatwa once was, or will political party interests prevail? I do not want to discuss politics or criticize. But this question has arisen in my mind. Ram Lalla has been established in Ayodhya. So, has Ram Rajatwa truly begun? Will we live in a true Ram Rajatwa now, or will things continue as before? Since Ram is established, his reign must also be established. In that ancient reign, there was at least one part of sin. Ram had one fault: Sita was sent to exile, and a virtuous woman like her had to undergo a fire test. Ultimately, unable to bear it, she entered the earth when it split open. She went back to Mother Earth. That is the main point. My only question is: will a true Ram Rajatwa be established? If it is, I will be very happy.
Devotee 2:
Gurudev, PM Modi is trying his level best to bring back Ram Rajatwa.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
That is good, very good. I want that.
Devotee 2:
Please, let no one misunderstand me as being political; I am speaking the truth. He has elevated India to a top position in the world. People used to neglect or look down upon India, and he has changed that. Many brilliant students who would have gone abroad are now joining big companies here in India. The Government of India is paying attention to this.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Yes, I want this too. Since Ram is established, Ram Rajatwa should also be established, and we should all be able to experience it.
Devotee 2:
I hope your words reach him, Gurudev. If he hears them, I believe he will give you an answer, and it will be a positive one.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Yes, it should be positive. Why wouldn't it be? I want Ram Rajatwa to return.
Devotee 2:
Some evil must be suppressed first, Gurudev.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Punishing the wicked and protecting the good—these are the words of Krishna. Krishna will surely do this. He appears in every age. In this age, he will appear as Kalki to punish the wicked and protect those who are virtuous. This is what is foretold for Kaliyug. And the end of Kaliyug will be very terrifying. So, we must wait. There is no other way but to wait and see what happens. What do you think?
Devotee 2:
Yes, it will happen. Perhaps Ram Rajatwa won't start immediately. Some evil will be suppressed first, and then it will happen. It will take some years.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Okay, then that is fine. My only concern is that since Ram is established in Ayodhya, will that true Ram Rajatwa follow? Will we be able to experience it?
Devotee 2:
But PM Modi ji is trying his best. He has taken India to great heights. My hope is that your words reach him and he responds.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Salutations. We will stop here for today.
Devotee:
Salutations, Gurudev.