Speaker 1:
Namaskar. Today, we are present at the annual festival of the Rajpur cremation ground in Santragachi. Since this morning, you have been tirelessly answering people's questions and providing them with peace. We are observing the rituals of this puja today. You have been explaining how Kali Puja is performed and what should be done. These are things we don't often hear from any saint or sage nowadays. We see you on your YouTube channel or hear you directly. If anyone has any questions, they should approach you at the right time, and you explain everything beautifully. Please don't disturb him unnecessarily; give him some time. He has been practicing spiritual meditation here for 40 years. Back then, this cremation ground was a jungle, filled with foxes and owls. People were afraid to enter even during the day. Puja used to be performed by the light of the wooden funeral pyres. Today, we see electric pyres, many people, and a market atmosphere. Amidst all this, you are performing the puja. People have been coming since morning; even the MLA and the OC (Officer-in-Charge) have visited. We are witnessing this sacrificial ritual, and it feels like we were meant to experience this. If you could say a few words about this puja.
Speaker 2:
What you said is correct. At one time, this place was a jungle. There were foxes, owls, and snakes. People were terrified to come here during the day where the puja is being held now. People were especially afraid of the snakes. There were so many snakes and foxes back then. Now, all that is gone. When we started, there was no electricity. We performed the puja by the light of the funeral pyres. Sometimes, four or five bodies would be burning at once, and we would keep the Mother (Goddess) in the middle of that and pray. It was a fierce form of worship.
Speaker 1:
This is beyond our imagination.
Speaker 2:
Many people are surprised by it. Only a few who were there back then have seen it.
Speaker 1:
I have visited the Kashi Vishwanath cremation ghat where bodies are cremated, but even there I haven't seen such a fierce atmosphere. There are many cremations and many people, and Naga Sadhus performing rituals. But how did you enter this jungle back then and perform such meditation?
Speaker 2:
It is the Mother's grace. It's nothing but her mercy. Many people are surprised to see me.
Speaker 1:
You are a realized soul (Siddha Purush).
Speaker 2:
I became realized a long time ago. But more importantly, the people here respect me for one reason: I have a "stamp" of being an honest person. I am not dishonest. I don't work for money, and I don't cheat anyone. I don't tell lies in the Mother's name. This is my major principle.
Speaker 1:
This is absolutely true. People from various places, even from abroad, have said the same—that you have never taken a single rupee from anyone. Usually, when people go to a temple, there is a demand for donations.
Speaker 2:
Well, everyone has their own way. For some, it's a business. If they can install an idol and build a temple, it becomes a lifelong source of income. It's a business for them. But God isn't for business; God is for calling upon with devotion.
Speaker 1:
We can see that. Even during the pandemic, you have continued.
Speaker 2:
Despite everything, many people gather here. This time, I kept it small, but I still had to get permission from the police station. The OC came and checked, then gave permission. The MLA also gave permission.
Speaker 1:
You say it's small, but even though this is my first night staying here, I have been coming here for a long time. In this "Hut of Peace," so many people are coming, and no one leaves without receiving the Mother's prasad (blessed food).
Speaker 2:
That is the Mother's gift. It is Mother Annapurna's gift. If you look inside, you'll see Mother Annapurna standing there. There is no shortage of food here. It's amazing—at least 500 to 1,000 cups of tea are served here every day. Anyone can have tea as many times as they want. Our kitchen is always stocked. At any moment, I can feed 100 people with what we have. People from far away bring rice, potatoes, oil, and other supplies. I don't even see half of what comes in, but there is always plenty. Every day, 8 to 10 people eat here. I have a wish for the future—I don't know if it will happen—to feed 50 poor people every day for free. Even now, anyone who comes, eats. No one goes back empty-handed.
Speaker 1:
If someone wants to give 50 or 100 rupees to help feed the poor...
Speaker 2:
Look, just now you saw a gentleman touching my feet. Why don't I take money? How do I know if he is a thief or a dacoit? If I take that money, the Mother will hit me with a whip. She will ask, "Whose money did you take? Why did you take it?" I have to face her whip. Out of fear of that whip, I have become very careful. I don't do anything wrong in front of her. I don't take money from everyone who comes.
Speaker 1:
You have been tirelessly serving people for a long time—curing difficult illnesses and helping people with their jobs or legal cases. Even though you work so hard, you don't take a penny. We want you to stay healthy.
Speaker 2:
It's all up to the Mother. She is the one controlling everything. Even if you gave me money, my health wouldn't improve. I work with diseases like TB, cancer, and kidney failure. Yesterday, a boy came from Basirhat; he was in a coma. His parents were crying. He works for a newspaper. The doctors asked for 10 to 12 lakh rupees for a kidney transplant. They came to me with hope. He came out of the coma and was brought here yesterday. They asked for my blessings. I did what I could, and they didn't have to spend a penny. They won't have to. There are many such cases of cancer.
Speaker 1:
That means the Mother's blessings are entirely upon you. There is no doubt about it. You never turn anyone away.
Speaker 2:
I rarely turn anyone away. Sometimes I might be leaving to eat at 1:00 PM, and if someone comes then and starts demanding things, I might get a bit annoyed. On Saturdays and Tuesdays, and during the New Moon or Full Moon, there are certain rules, but people don't always listen. I also ask girls and boys not to come to the cremation ground after dark. These are rightful rules, but some people object to them and say I chased them away. They just don't understand me. That is my misfortune.
Speaker 1:
Even if some don't understand, those who have benefited from you surely do. People are coming from Assam, Siliguri, and even from abroad.
Speaker 2:
Not just calls—people are coming in person. Yesterday, a girl called me from France. I call her "Misti Ma" (Sweet Mother). I showed her the Goddess via video call. Some call me "Kuttu Ma."
Speaker 1:
A few days ago, a boy from Chennai was crying because he came for tea and you had already left.
Speaker 2:
Many such things happen. People say, "You were at my house, you saw me, I asked you to sit, and then you vanished." This happens quite often. I can't explain it. But there is a connection. Many people ask me to visit their homes, but I can't physically go everywhere. So, I have to go in my "subtle body" (Sookshma Deha). That's what I do.
Speaker 1:
May this beautiful place remain established by your blessings, and may you continue to serve us for a long time. This is true service to the country. It's no less than what Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose did.
Speaker 2:
I agree. I am continuing to do it. No corruption has entered this place yet. No one can get away with just giving money. I have driven many people away. I asked them, "Are you trying to buy me or the Mother?" They might have made some negative comments because I turned them away, but they just don't understand the truth.
Speaker 1:
You mentioned that after your initiation, you offered fish and rice (Mach Bhaat) to the Mother. After that, a dog named Kali, who was associated with Bamdev, came and ate that fish and rice. Also, is it true that you keep the Goddess tied with a chain?
Speaker 2:
There is a different reason for that.
Speaker 1:
Please tell us, why the chain? No one can really tie the Mother down.
Speaker 2:
There are some exceptions.
Speaker 1:
Tell us about your feelings regarding this. It might seem strange to some that the Mother is tied with a chain.
Speaker 2:
In the old days, dacoits used to tie the Goddess when they went for a robbery.
Speaker 1:
But why would you tie her? We keep temples open and unlocked so she can be free, but you have her in chains.
Speaker 2:
It is my wish. I have tied her because I wanted to.
Speaker 1:
Can we know what her "offense" was?
Speaker 2:
There are many offenses, but you wouldn't understand. You can't just come for two minutes and talk big.
Speaker 1:
Please don't be angry. I am just asking because she is everyone's Mother. My mother, your mother...
Speaker 2:
Why don't you say anything when people drive their own parents out of their homes? They send them here and there, but you don't speak up then.
Speaker 1:
I have one question. Some people might not like the Mother or might not want to see her...
Speaker 2:
Listen, this is my personal view. This is my house, I am a son of this house, and I don't find anything wrong with it. I am the son of Kali.