Interviewer:
Pranam (Greetings), Gurudev.
Gurudev:
Pranam, pranam. Tell me.
Interviewer:
Our minds are very disturbed today.
Gurudev:
Why?
Interviewer:
The only reason is the current state of India and the whole world. The environment is becoming so polluted that we are skeptical if we or the next generation will ever be able to breathe clean air or see proper light on this earth. Our minds are troubled. Is this world even going to be habitable in the future? We would be grateful if you could share your thoughts on this.
Gurudev:
Well, look, you are around 55 or 60 years old. I am telling you, many such events have occurred in this world's history. You may not know them all, but there have been many instances that have shaken humanity. Long ago, when people first lived on earth, they weren't as knowledgeable or educated as they are now. Do you understand what I mean?
Gurudev:
Today, you see advanced science and modern humanity, but the world will essentially remain where it was. Because of wrong human decisions, things that are built will be destroyed. Yesterday, I saw a four-story building collapse with my own eyes. If you build a house on a pond or near a canal, that is what will happen. People are gradually filling up canals, wetlands, and ponds for their own interests—to build flats or sell land for money. It is all about money. What won't people do for money?
Gurudev:
As for the catastrophes you worry about, they have happened many times before. There is no need to be so disturbed. The sun will remain in the sky, it will continue to give light, and the wind will not stop blowing. Everything will proceed, and the beauty of the earth will be maintained.
Gurudev:
Sometimes, due to human error or because nature is displeased, nature destroys parts of itself only to recreate them. Humans don't have to do the creating. When humans act against nature, nature cannot sustain it. Humans cannot provide what nature wants, and nature cannot provide what humans demand. Consequently, parts of the earth have become uninhabitable.
Gurudev:
Consider how people live today. They build a house and plan to plant flowers and trees, but where has their mindset reached? They have lost their humanity and returned to a barbaric state, like when people lived in jungles. They lack wisdom. One group is pitted against another so that no one can live in peace. Those living nearby suffer the consequences. When groups fight, innocent people in the middle die. As the saying goes, "When kings go to war, the commoners lose their lives."
Gurudev:
Look at how peaceful Nepal used to be, and now even they are making threats. After 70 years of independence, they are suddenly claiming they didn't get this or that. This is all due to instigation. China thinks it can dominate the entire world alone, but they are living in a fool's paradise. If India stops buying Chinese goods, China will collapse. Nearly 101 countries have boycotted them. China cannot bear that pressure.
Gurudev:
So, there might be some conflict, and people might die—I won't deny that—but the world will remain habitable. Many wars have happened, like the first and second World Wars. Did everyone die? No. Nature recreated itself. However, there are concerns, like the cracks under the sea or tectonic plate shifts. If what scientists are saying is true, something very serious could happen.
Interviewer:
In this context, I want to mention your disciple and devoted follower, whom many in India know—Dr. Sujib Kar. I have seen him speak on various channels after consulting with you. He has spoken about earthquakes and the upcoming monsoon. If you could elaborate on that.
Gurudev:
Yes, Dr. Sujib Kar has been with me for a long time. I am his Guru. I used to guide him. Even after he completed his PhD, he was a bit hesitant about his path. He used to be a school teacher. He came to me wanting to take Diksha (initiation) and learn Tantra Sadhana. He learned it with great devotion. One could say he is a famous Tantrik, though he doesn't show it. I advised him to dress normally—in pants and shirts—so people wouldn't know.
Gurudev:
Whenever he appears on TV, he calls me first. Some days he is on three or four different channels. He asks me what he should say and what the questions might be. I advise him on what to say regarding the weather and other topics. Sometimes he tells me, "Gurudev, please protect me, I've already made the statement." He is a very educated man and I enjoy his speeches. He has studied extensively.
Interviewer:
We saw that his predictions about the Amphan cyclone were exactly right. His observations on weather patterns matched reality perfectly. I noticed that both of your views on these matters were identical.
Gurudev:
Yes, that is because he calls me before every appearance. There is always a subject for discussion. I advise him on what would be best to say. This has been going on for years. Now, TV channels are a major platform for him, and people all over the world recognize him. His thesis has been submitted in many places. His work regarding the Ganges is also being implemented slowly.
Interviewer:
We also know he submitted a report to the Indian government regarding the Metro Rail tunnel between Howrah and Sealdah, which the government accepted. It is remarkable that you are the Guru of such a person.
Gurudev:
That is a different matter. There are many Gurus, but true disciples are rare. He is a very efficient and devoted disciple. He discusses everything with me before he goes to speak anywhere. He always asks me to stay with him spiritually.
Gurudev:
Long ago, I mentioned that I prepare a specific type of water to see the future. One of the things I saw that came true was the Kedarnath disaster. I won't speak of the other things I've seen because they involve too much destruction. I even stopped looking at those scenes in the water because they were too distressing. I saw a massive earthquake. I predicted then that an earthquake of magnitude 8 or 9 would occur. I told Sujib this as well. Now, we see small earthquakes almost every day. Even this morning there was one. There is a reason for this. It is going to happen.
Gurudev:
There could also be tidal waves. Look at Puri—tons of fish are being washed up with every wave. I have been to Puri thirty times and seen many waves, but I've never seen this before. People are gathering them. I even saw sharks and turtles coming out of the water. These animals usually stay in the deep sea. They are sensing something that makes them feel they can no longer stay in the water. This is not a good sign. This is happening in the Indian Ocean.
Interviewer:
So, are you sensing a major earthquake in the near future?
Gurudev:
I have already sensed it and declared it. I can't give an exact date, but since scientists are now admitting the possibility, I am certain of my prediction. TV reports are suggesting it could be above magnitude 8 or 9.
Interviewer:
If that happens, the destruction will be massive.
Gurudev:
The world has been destroyed many times before; it is nothing new. It destroys and then rebuilds itself. We who believe in Hindu Sanatan Dharma calculate these cycles differently. Others have their own methods, but our conclusions often align.
Gurudev:
When I look at my calculations and compare them with what is mentioned in the Hadith or the Quran, there is no difference. They might say it differently—that a messenger or the Mahdi will come—but they aren't wrong. I have also read the Bible. It says that when such a crisis arrives, a great ship will come to collect the seeds of everything on earth. The destruction will follow, but those seeds will be preserved on that ship. Good people, trees, and everything needed for the next generation will be saved to create a new world.
Gurudev:
I feel that this earthquake might hit Myanmar or even Delhi. I also believe the plateau region of Bihar could be affected. If it hits the Himalayas, the mountains might split into two. I have said this before. A dried-up sea, which I call the Krishna Sagar (Black Sea), might emerge. There used to be seven seas, but now there are six. The Tethys Sea once became the Himalayas. If a major earthquake hits, the Himalayas—which are still "young" in geological terms—could split, and a new sea could be created. This is even mentioned in the Puranas.
Gurudev:
You say the world will become uninhabitable, but I believe the world will remain. According to Lord Brahma's plan, there are 14 Manus (cycles of time). We are currently in the 9th Manu. There are five more to go. So, when people say this is the end of Kali Yuga or the arrival of the Kalki avatar, I don't think it is quite time yet. My calculations suggest the world has about 24,000 to 25,000 years left. I don't know if scientists will agree, but this is our calculation.
Gurudev:
However, there will be a massive loss of life. Millions will die. I've said it before and I'll say it again—we haven't seen real death yet. Covid is a small thing compared to what is coming. Millions will perish. I saw this in the stone bowl of water and had to stop. Whether people believe me or not doesn't matter; it is my own conviction based on what I saw—houses falling and tidal waves rising. It is not far off.
Interviewer:
Gurudev, through this mixture of hope and despair, what you have shared gives us enough satisfaction to keep our hopes up for the future.
Gurudev:
You shouldn't despair so much. Stop the hopelessness. Right now, there are dark clouds over India's future. When disasters come, they affect everyone. We have seen war, earthquakes, cyclones like Amphan, and now Covid. It is up to humanity to overcome these challenges. Crying won't help; we must give people courage.
Interviewer:
We have learned so much from you today. Pranam, Gurudev.
Gurudev:
Pranam, pranam.