Devotee:
Namaskar, Gurudev.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Namaskar, Baba.
Devotee:
First, I would like to ask our friends to subscribe to the channel "Gupta Sadhok Shyama Khyapa." The more you subscribe, the more valuable videos we can present to you. Gurudev, we have been receiving many questions. People are writing to ask why you used to provide videos to the "Hiranyagarbha" channel before, but you are not giving videos to that channel anymore. What is the reason behind this, Gurudev?
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
There is no other reason. I am the one who gave birth to "Hiranyagarbha." "Hiranyagarbha" was born at my hands. The logo you see today and the name—they were given by me. I didn't realize how harmful excessive affection toward someone could be. I have been cheated. I have been cheated by many people over time. I have helped many and have been deceived. I had a strong belief that "Hiranyagarbha" would not betray me. I had immense faith. I loved the admin like a son because he was in a very distressed state. It pained me.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
When he told me, "Gurudev, you have a vast storehouse of knowledge and spiritual treasures. It would be great if you could share them so we could propagate them to the people," I agreed. At that moment, I started giving content, and my reach grew. The whole world knows me by the name "Shyama Khyapa." While the admin of "Hiranyagarbha" made this possible on one hand, I also have to face the challenge of so many people coming to see me. On one hand, people recognize me, but on the other hand, it has caused me great trouble. I can't turn anyone away because these are all gifts of the Mother.
Devotee:
After seeing those videos, many people are coming to you.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Yes, many people are coming. While there has been a benefit, there has also been a loss. People know me now, but it has caused me great hardship. I loved the admin of "Hiranyagarbha" very much, with the affection one has for a son. But I don't know if it was the lure of money or something else, but he started walking a different path. Today, many people say that the episodes currently running are not suitable to be watched sitting with one's parents. Such comments never came in my case.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Now, reading these comments, I am surprised to hear that they aren't suitable for parents or children to watch together. This was never the case with me. I have always spoken of spiritual truths and never strayed elsewhere. But later, I saw that gradually—maybe due to greed for money or whatever the reason—things changed.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
One day, I called a software engineer from Mumbai. I asked him to check what was going on. He told me, "Gurudev, wait, I will give you the news tonight." I found out that the person I knew as the admin had made someone else the owner. After providing 500 episodes, I have no name there. I am treated like a street dog.
Devotee:
In the beginning, only your videos used to appear. Then, gradually, everyone else started appearing.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Yes, everything used to be mine. But later I realized there was no benefit. Greed for money reached such a level—and money destroys people. I have no need for money. I told him once in front of Mother Tara, "If any money comes from the episodes, many poor and distressed people come here. Those who serve the Mother here—they get nothing. They are very poor. They have no work or clothes. They stay here. I help them as much as I can, but I also have a limit. I stay within my limits. If someone leaves me five or ten rupees as an offering, I don't take it home; I distribute it among them." There is Atanu, who sings and serves the Mother; he is a very poor boy. He is very happy if he gets a hundred rupees. Then there is Shyamal Das, who is always with the Mother; he is also unemployed.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
My wish was that if money came from the channel, if the admin gave me some of that money every month, I could distribute it among these people. That was the understanding.
Devotee:
They work selflessly; it would be good if they got some pocket money.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
I told him this repeatedly: "So many unemployed people come here; if I could give them something, it would be very good. They could work with joy and find inspiration. Money is everything, as you know." But that didn't happen. Later, I saw that I have no name with the admin anymore. I am nobody.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
He took episodes from me through summer, rain, and illness. Many doctors sent me medicine when they heard me coughing. Eight doctors sent various medicines, saying, "Please take these, you will get better." Despite all this, I gave the content.
Devotee:
He even went to your house to film the videos.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Yes, he took videos at my house. I couldn't even stand up, yet I gave the videos. I was in no condition to do it. Many people talk about a father-son relationship. But if a son tries to sell his father for profit, and the father finds out, how does he feel? You have plenty of money, and your father is begging; would that feel good?
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
So, I saw that gradually, out of greed for money—nothing but greed—he changed. Many people told me many things about him, but I didn't listen. I loved and respected him deeply. Today, that trust is broken. I have received the result of my over-trust. Why should I give content anymore?
Devotee:
That is why you even lost a disciple over this matter.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Yes, that is right. I lost a disciple. But that is not the big issue. The big issue is, why should I give content? My only interest was the many poor people here who can't afford to eat. I help them as much as I can from my own pocket. When people give me offerings, I don't take them home. I live in a thatched hut; if you enter my house, you will see it's just a bamboo structure. I don't use that money.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Many people are saying many things. There is no greater sorrow than this. And not only that, when the administration of the channel started, I spent at least 50,000 rupees to get it going. It was agreed that this money would be returned. I had borrowed that money, thinking that once the channel started and episodes ran with advertisements, the money would be repaid. But he didn't even think about repaying a single penny. He remained obsessed with becoming even bigger.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Later, I found out that many people had helped him, but he kicked them away. It was the same in my case. At least five or six people had helped him significantly when his condition was very bad. I am the last of them.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Many people told me, "You are making a mistake, you don't know him," but I said, "I don't want to hear it. Once I have called someone my son and trusted him, I will continue to do so, no matter what you say." But later, I heard from people close to him that many had helped him, and he never showed gratitude. And look what he has done to me today. He could have kept me as an owner or given me some position, but he did none of that.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
I didn't want money for myself. I wanted it for the poor. As you know, I do medicinal work, and that has costs. I run that with my own money, from selling my books. If I sell two books a day, I get 300-400 rupees, and I use that for these things. I don't take money from people for medicine.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
I did this with great hope, but I realized that excessive affection is a poisonous thing. I am suffering the consequences of that affection. Many people are saying many things, and that is why I felt compelled to speak. I wouldn't have said anything; I would have remained silent. But I am reading the comments, and I don't like it. People are hearing only one side; they don't know the other side. I had stayed quiet all this time. But I had to speak up because the situation was becoming one-sided. If both sides are known, people can judge. Let people know, let them understand. Let them abuse me, let them hit me. Many have called me a fraud, a cheat, a thief. I have endured all of it and still provided episodes.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
After those episodes, many people said many things to me, and I was lowered in the eyes of many. Yet some people call me "God." That's not the point. The point is that this controversy should end. People are suffering unnecessarily. Someone called me and said, "Speak for yourself; a written statement won't do. We, the audience, want to know the truth."
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
So, I have explained it briefly. I am deeply hurt. I didn't say I wouldn't provide content; I do it for the good of the people. Many say they have learned a lot from me. I saw that giving content there was like pouring ghee on ashes. There is no benefit in pouring ghee on ashes. So, everyone told me, "We will set it up for you. You provide episodes on your own channel. Then you won't have to depend on anyone." I don't care if money comes or not. My book sales cover my daily needs.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
I have shared the truth with the audience. Now, if people want to criticize me, I will accept it. And if they think I am right, they should look into the facts. My words aren't everything; they can find out the truth. Someone wrote that he is ungrateful—they wrote the truth. Those who fall into trouble, fall into it repeatedly. I haven't fallen into trouble; my episodes are running. Let him run it the way he wants. I will neither curse him nor bless him. That is his personal matter. I wanted something, but this is what happened.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
I don't need to be envious; everyone eats according to their fate. I won't give episodes for one reason: maybe it would have brought more ads, but so much trickery is being used. I don't like so much trickery. That's why when people asked me to speak up, I decided to clarify things today. I have worked very hard and spent a lot of money, but in return, I am nobody. I am no one to the admin, no one to "Hiranyagarbha." I am just a street dog—a "Chinpada" street dog. He could have given me a position or told me, "I have made someone else the owner because of the money." He could have told me that.
Devotee:
It's good, Gurudev, that you have solved the questions that people had. Namaskar, Gurudev.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Namaskar.