Devotee:
Gurudev, my respects to you.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Bless you, son. Bless you.
Devotee:
Gurudev, in late 2020, you made some predictions for 2021 that made many of us apprehensive. We have seen those predictions start coming true one after another. We have already faced one cyclone, and another is on its way. Please tell us, what should people do now?
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
There is nothing for people to do except wait and bear the brunt. The coronavirus hasn't left yet. The first phase passed, then the second. By the 22nd, the second phase will seem much clearer — meaning people won't hear about it as much. But the third phase that is coming is extremely terrifying. Based on what I have heard from doctors... some doctors came to see me and what they told me was frightening. They showed me four pictures of Black Fungus. After seeing those photos, I told them to stop; I couldn't look anymore. They showed pictures of four young people — their eyes had literally popped out. I was terrified to see that such things happen to humans. So, Black Fungus is coming, and we must accept that as part of the third phase. And I am hearing from doctors that it will affect children the most. Where will people go? This is all part of a plan — a massive, calculated plan. I said that during the second phase, many people died. Those affected by the second wave faced high mortality. You can see even now, 100 to 150 people are dying every day.
Devotee:
In India, it is nearly 5,000, and in West Bengal, it's around 150.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
I am talking about 150 in West Bengal. Since we live in West Bengal and cannot go outside, I am focusing on West Bengal. In our state, 150 people are dying daily. This is what is worrying us. Those who were affected in the second phase are dying in large numbers. Even in our own neighborhood, two or three people died. I saw people I've known since they were born pass away from COVID. It is very pathetic.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
And now, another storm is coming. I'm hearing it's a massive storm. I saw it on the news and on mobile. A huge storm is forming. Since it originated over the Bay of Bengal, its target is Kolkata. I heard Mamata Di (Mamata Banerjee) also mentioned that the 26th will be a very dangerous day. She has warned people that another disaster is coming and we have to face it. We don't know how bad it will be; people have different opinions.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Besides this, I am worried because of the extreme heat we are experiencing; I expect an earthquake. An earthquake might occur at any moment. That is another fear. Between the storm and the potential earthquake, where will people go? There is no employment, no income, and on top of that, these disasters keep coming.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Then there is the third phase. They say it won't come immediately, maybe in September or October. People are already worried about how to handle it. I heard there is no vaccine for it yet. The current vaccines cannot stop Black Fungus or the third phase. We are very concerned about this.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
All of this is happening because of the change in "Manus" (cosmic cycles). As you know, there are 14 Manus. We are currently in the 9th Manu. There are five more to go. The remaining five fall under the "Sarvani Manu." This will be a time when the "Shudras" will rise. Their influence will increase, and they will lack wisdom or foresight. They will oppress others. This was mentioned long ago in the Bhagavat.
Devotee:
Are you saying humans will oppress each other?
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Yes, humans will oppress humans. They will have no sense of conscience. They will receive very little education, and society will be filled with conflict — who will kill whom, who will hurt whom. This 9th Manu has me very worried.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Let me name the 14 Manus for you. The father of the current cycle is the "Shvetavaraha Kalpa." Manu is the father of mankind. We are currently under the Shvetavaraha cycle. Out of the 14 Manus, we have passed through eight. The 14 Manus are: Svayambhuva Manu (the first one), Svarocisha Manu, Uttama Manu, Tamasa Manu, Raivata Manu, Chakshusha Manu, Vaivasvata Manu, Savarni Manu (the age of the Shudras starts here), Brahma-savarni Manu (this is the one we are in now), Dharma-savarni Manu, Rudra-savarni Manu, Deva-savarni Manu, Indra-savarni Manu, and Agni-savarni Manu.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
As the cycles progress toward the end, things will become more chaotic. The first few Manus were good, but as we move further, the age of the Brahmins and Kshatriyas is ending, and the age of the Shudras is beginning. In the Gita, it mentions the four varnas: Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya, and Shudra. Now, the Shudras have started their reign. The consequences will be beyond imagination. On one hand, nature will be oppressive, and on the other, human oppression will increase. Ordinary people will be crushed in between.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
The Savarni cycles began with the 8th Manu. We are now in the 9th, the Brahma-savarni. This will continue through the rest of the cycles. During this time, people will lack judgment and wisdom. Those in power will dismiss the traditional learned classes. They will say, "Who is a Brahmin? Move aside, I am the one who will perform the rituals." The Brahmins, who were once considered the "head of Narayana," will gradually fall to the "feet of Narayana" in this cycle.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
If you look at the current political landscape, many of those at the top are from the Scheduled Castes or Scheduled Tribes. It has already begun. The wheel of time is turning, and no one can stop it. People will eventually realize this, but they won't be able to do anything. You see ministers and MLAs today who have risen from the very bottom — people whose names were never heard before are now in power.
Devotee:
But Gurudev, during the earlier Manus, the world was at peace. Now, even though we are in the age of the Shudras, the world is advancing scientifically.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
There is a big difference between science and spirituality. You have to accept what spirituality says. Some people don't like it when we talk about God or spirituality; they might even use foul language. They are living in ignorance. But what is destined to happen will happen. It is written in the Bhagavat and the Jagannath Bhagavat as well.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
You ask about science? Will science create a minister? Will science create social peace? When a person rises to power without the benefit of a traditional, cultured education, how will they behave? They have power — the power of the ministry and the power over the police — but no wisdom. This is what I mean when I say that despite scientific progress, human mentality is declining.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Look at the elections — look at who is standing for office. They will become ministers. What will happen to the country? They have no education, yet they have authority. They will act without restraint. This internal conflict and chaos will continue because the Savarni age started with the 8th Manu and will last until the 14th. We have studied this deeply. As time goes on, you will see people from the lowest rungs of society rising to power without the necessary wisdom to lead. They will sit in the Legislative Assembly but won't be able to make sound decisions.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
The high-caste and the middle-class will find themselves in danger. I am predicting this today. The age of the Shudras is here, and they will rule, leading to a gradual decline of the nation. This is what our scriptures say, and the scriptures are never wrong. Everything mentioned in the Gita and the Bhagavat is coming true word for word. We should actually be amazed that we are witnessing what was written so long ago.
Devotee:
The Gita says it, Nostradamus said it...
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
No, this is not about Nostradamus. This specific racial and social transition is from our own scriptures. They defined these times and these Manus. As time goes on, the oppression will increase, and there is nothing anyone can do. Those in the middle or at the top will suffer. I'm dictating this today.
Devotee:
Gurudev, this was a wonderful discussion. I offer my respects to Ma Bama Tara and to you.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Success to you.