Devotee:
Master, my humble respect to you.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Blessings to you, child.
Devotee:
Master, today we have found someone who is very familiar to you. We've been listening to his profound religious views and philosophies for a while now, and they've left us truly captivated. You suggested that having an episode with him would be very beneficial for our audience.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
I am very happy to meet him. What he shared about God and the Divine Mother, Tara, truly amazed me.
Devotee:
Greetings, sir.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
He is a frequent visitor to Tara Peeth. Mother Tara is always with him. He often goes there for her divine sight and receives her blessings, as well as the blessings of Bambaba. I'm pleased to introduce you to someone who has experienced Mother Tara's grace so closely. Please, sir, share your thoughts on God.
S. P. Mukherjee:
Honestly, I used to wonder about the significance of visiting various temples and using things like amulets or talismans. Over time, I've come to realize that our mental strength is the most crucial factor. By strengthening ourselves mentally, we can overcome many of life's challenges. Many people come to me when they are in trouble, seeking ways to get out of their situations. My advice is always the same: improve yourself mentally. The more you strengthen your mind, the more you will be liberated from your problems. The real issue is that we often create our own problems and then look for solutions in all the wrong places. We don't just fool ourselves; we often end up deceiving others as well. So, I urge everyone to focus on increasing their mental resilience.
S. P. Mukherjee:
I've seen things at Tara Peeth that didn't sit well with me, like rituals involving someone's photograph. When I asked them why they were doing it, they told me to leave, warning that I might even die. I challenged them, saying, "Go ahead, show me what you can do." I remember a time at the Tara Peeth cremation ground where some Aghori Babas (ascetics) were present. I was meditating and wearing some gold jewelry. One of them told the Goddess, "Mother, I do everything for you. Let's take everything he has." I thought this would be an interesting test of whose faith was strongerâmine or his. A few minutes later, I heard a cry of pain. I saw that a tree branch from the temple area had hit him on the head. I ended up tearing a piece of my own dhoti (traditional garment) to bandage his head before sending him to Rampurhat Hospital. I've seen many such incidents.
S. P. Mukherjee:
I hadn't seen Bambaba for a long time, so I really wanted to visit him. I believe being near him significantly boosts one's mental strength. I'm not saying this to promote him; I simply suggest that if you spend 10 to 15 minutes in this temple, you'll feel the difference. I don't know the exact nature of my bond with him, but the love I've received from him is beyond anything I ever expected. He truly understands me and wishes me well.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
He is a true devotee of Mother Tara. Although he lives far away, he visits whenever he can. I deeply admire his principles and ideals. He's right about what he said. I've always told people not to bring elaborate offerings like sweets or fruits. Come with empty hands but a full heart. Mother Tara wants your devotion, love, and respect. If you just offer some fruit and a quick bow without true feeling, she isn't satisfied. I tell everyone to sit with her for five minutes and speak your heart to her. She will listen and provide a solution. I'm just a human being; she's the one who acts through me. I want people to sit here in peace, not in a rush to go to the bank or the market. Speak to her, and she will make a way. People have immense faith in the simple things I offer in her name.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
People from all over the worldâCanada, France, Germany, Japanâcome here seeking initiation. Even when I was performing the Maha Mrityunjaya Yajna (a grand sacrificial ritual) for world peace and human welfare, people came from as far as Japan and Pashupatinath. They had heard about it on Google. They were amazed because such a long ritual is considered nearly impossible.
Devotee:
Master, why is the Maha Mrityunjaya Yajna considered so difficult or even restricted?
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
In this age (Kali Yuga), performing the Maha Mrityunjaya Yajna or the Ashwamedha Yajna is generally prohibited because of the immense risks involved. We faced many challenges and losses. One of our young members, only 30 years old, passed away during that time. Many of us fell ill or faced great hardships.
Devotee:
But you still chose to continue?
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Once we started, we couldn't just stop. We had made a solemn vow to complete a 1,000-day ritual. We even had to sell some of the Goddess's gold ornaments to keep the sacrificial fire burning. When I commit to something, I must see it through. If God is with us, this Yajna will surely bring peace to the world, sooner or later.
Devotee:
Sir, earlier you mentioned increasing "Immunity Power." Could you elaborate on that, especially regarding Ayurvedic and Allopathic approaches?
S. P. Mukherjee:
Often, people don't fully understand what immunity really is. They mistakenly take various vitamins or even steroids, which might lead to weight gain (obesity) but don't actually boost immunity. Think about it: if your body has a certain number of cells, your heart is accustomed to pumping blood for that amount. If you suddenly double that through artificial means, it puts a massive strain on your heart. You should never take steroids or such medicines without consulting a proper nutritionist or a qualified doctor. I personally prefer natural, chemical-free Ayurvedic products, but even then, you must know what you're taking. Nature, which created our bodies, is often the best healer. We often rush into things for quick results, like eating broiler chicken with just some salt for growth, without realizing the potential harm we're doing to ourselves. Whether you believe in God or in people, your mindset is key. Personally, I find it much better to have faith in God than in people.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Most doctors might just give you chemicals or steroids. God doesn't do that. Because people lack faith, they rush to hospitals and nursing homes, spending all their hard-earned money.
S. P. Mukherjee:
I believe everyone can find solutions to their problems within themselves.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Look, we are always here with the sacrificial fire. I have never worn a mask in my life. People have criticized me for it, but I haven't felt the need. Even during the peak of the pandemic, we never used masks here. Being around this sacred fire and serving the Mother has naturally boosted our immunity. We don't need those things.
S. P. Mukherjee:
Bambaba has often asked me to take off my mask. I explained that I wear it for my own safety and because people are afraid. But there's a proper way to use a mask. Simply wearing one won't necessarily protect you from the virus if you don't use it correctly. Wearing the same mask for 12 hours straight can actually be harmful to your health. People should learn the right way to use and clean them.
Devotee:
Could you tell us more about the proper use of masks?
S. P. Mukherjee:
A mask should only be worn for a limited time, maybe two to four hours. If you're talking to someone and their germs get onto your mask, you're just breathing them in repeatedly. Masks are primarily to protect you from pollution and certain germs. I've seen surgical masks being sold for high prices when they should be cheap. And people use them for days on end! They should be used and then disposed of properly. Our lack of knowledge causes us a lot of mental and physical distress.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
And nobody is there to guide them correctly. Even when doctors come here and tell me to wear a mask, I refuse. Whatever happens, happens.
Devotee:
But Master, you're here in this sacred space. When you're among the general public...
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Every morning, around 150 people come to see me and seek my blessings. They touch my feet and stay close. I haven't had any issues.
Devotee:
That's because you have your own spiritual power, and the Divine Mother is protecting you.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
It's about the immunity that the Mother provides me through these rituals. There's no point in arguing about it. God was, is, and will always be. Everything happens according to His will. Not even a leaf falls without His command. People spend so much money on treatments and still don't survive, yet you don't see people living on the streets being as affected by the virus. Can you show me one person on the street who died of it? Our lifestyleâthe air conditioning, the processed foodâthat's where the trouble starts.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
The most important thing is to stay connected with God. He is the one who gives you true immunity. Come and sit with us; you won't feel the need for a mask.
Devotee:
Master, if people follow your example and stop wearing masks in public, it could lead to problems. You have a special protection here, but others might not.
S. P. Mukherjee:
Bambaba isn't against masks. He's saying that we often ignore the more important things and focus on the wrong ones. Of course, you should follow the rules, but he believes the Mother's power is supreme. He doesn't tell others not to wear masks; in fact, many people here are wearing them. He just finds it easier to talk without one. We shouldn't ignore science, just as we shouldn't ignore God.
Devotee:
Today we heard from both of them. We haven't officially introduced our guest yet. Could you please tell us your name?
S. P. Mukherjee:
S. P. Mukherjee.
Devotee:
Thank you, Master, and thank you, Mr. Mukherjee. It was a pleasure having you here at Shanti Kunj. My respects to both of you.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Blessings to you, child.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
He is a frequent visitor to Tara Peeth. Mother Tara is always with him. He often goes there for her divine sight and receives her blessings, as well as the blessings of Bambaba. I'm pleased to introduce you to someone who has experienced Mother Tara's grace so closely. Please, sir, share your thoughts on God.
S. P. Mukherjee:
Honestly, I used to wonder about the significance of visiting various temples and using things like amulets or talismans. Over time, I've come to realize that our mental strength is the most crucial factor. By strengthening ourselves mentally, we can overcome many of life's challenges. Many people come to me when they are in trouble, seeking ways to get out of their situations. My advice is always the same: improve yourself mentally. The more you strengthen your mind, the more you will be liberated from your problems. The real issue is that we often create our own problems and then look for solutions in all the wrong places. We don't just fool ourselves; we often end up deceiving others as well. So, I urge everyone to focus on increasing their mental resilience.
S. P. Mukherjee:
I've seen things at Tara Peeth that didn't sit well with me, like rituals involving someone's photograph. When I asked them why they were doing it, they told me to leave, warning that I might even die. I challenged them, saying, "Go ahead, show me what you can do." I remember a time at the Tara Peeth cremation ground where some Aghori Babas (ascetics) were present. I was meditating and wearing some gold jewelry. One of them told the Goddess, "Mother, I do everything for you. Let's take everything he has." I thought this would be an interesting test of whose faith was strongerâmine or his. A few minutes later, I heard a cry of pain. I saw that a tree branch from the temple area had hit him on the head. I ended up tearing a piece of my own dhoti (traditional garment) to bandage his head before sending him to Rampurhat Hospital. I've seen many such incidents.
S. P. Mukherjee:
I hadn't seen Bambaba for a long time, so I really wanted to visit him. I believe being near him significantly boosts one's mental strength. I'm not saying this to promote him; I simply suggest that if you spend 10 to 15 minutes in this temple, you'll feel the difference. I don't know the exact nature of my bond with him, but the love I've received from him is beyond anything I ever expected. He truly understands me and wishes me well.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
He is a true devotee of Mother Tara. Although he lives far away, he visits whenever he can. I deeply admire his principles and ideals. He's right about what he said. I've always told people not to bring elaborate offerings like sweets or fruits. Come with empty hands but a full heart. Mother Tara wants your devotion, love, and respect. If you just offer some fruit and a quick bow without true feeling, she isn't satisfied. I tell everyone to sit with her for five minutes and speak your heart to her. She will listen and provide a solution. I'm just a human being; she's the one who acts through me. I want people to sit here in peace, not in a rush to go to the bank or the market. Speak to her, and she will make a way. People have immense faith in the simple things I offer in her name.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
People from all over the worldâCanada, France, Germany, Japanâcome here seeking initiation. Even when I was performing the Maha Mrityunjaya Yajna (a grand sacrificial ritual) for world peace and human welfare, people came from as far as Japan and Pashupatinath. They had heard about it on Google. They were amazed because such a long ritual is considered nearly impossible.
Devotee:
Master, why is the Maha Mrityunjaya Yajna considered so difficult or even restricted?
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
In this age (Kali Yuga), performing the Maha Mrityunjaya Yajna or the Ashwamedha Yajna is generally prohibited because of the immense risks involved. We faced many challenges and losses. One of our young members, only 30 years old, passed away during that time. Many of us fell ill or faced great hardships.
Devotee:
But you still chose to continue?
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Once we started, we couldn't just stop. We had made a solemn vow to complete a 1,000-day ritual. We even had to sell some of the Goddessâs gold ornaments to keep the sacrificial fire burning. When I commit to something, I must see it through. If God is with us, this Yajna will surely bring peace to the world, sooner or later.
Devotee:
Sir, earlier you mentioned increasing "Immunity Power." Could you elaborate on that, especially regarding Ayurvedic and Allopathic approaches?
S. P. Mukherjee:
Often, people don't fully understand what immunity really is. They mistakenly take various vitamins or even steroids, which might lead to weight gain (obesity) but don't actually boost immunity. Think about it: if your body has a certain number of cells, your heart is accustomed to pumping blood for that amount. If you suddenly double that through artificial means, it puts a massive strain on your heart. You should never take steroids or such medicines without consulting a proper nutritionist or a qualified doctor. I personally prefer natural, chemical-free Ayurvedic products, but even then, you must know what you're taking. Nature, which created our bodies, is often the best healer. We often rush into things for quick results, like eating broiler chicken with just some salt for growth, without realizing the potential harm we're doing to ourselves. Whether you believe in God or in people, your mindset is key. Personally, I find it much better to have faith in God than in people.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Most doctors might just give you chemicals or steroids. God doesn't do that. Because people lack faith, they rush to hospitals and nursing homes, spending all their hard-earned money.
S. P. Mukherjee:
I believe everyone can find solutions to their problems within themselves.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Look, we are always here with the sacrificial fire. I have never worn a mask in my life. People have criticized me for it, but I haven't felt the need. Even during the peak of the pandemic, we never used masks here. Being around this sacred fire and serving the Mother has naturally boosted our immunity. We don't need those things.
S. P. Mukherjee:
Bambaba has often asked me to take off my mask. I explained that I wear it for my own safety and because people are afraid. But there's a proper way to use a mask. Simply wearing one won't necessarily protect you from the virus if you don't use it correctly. Wearing the same mask for 12 hours straight can actually be harmful to your health. People should learn the right way to use and clean them.
Devotee:
Could you tell us more about the proper use of masks?
S. P. Mukherjee:
A mask should only be worn for a limited time, maybe two to four hours. If you're talking to someone and their germs get onto your mask, you're just breathing them in repeatedly. Masks are primarily to protect you from pollution and certain germs. I've seen surgical masks being sold for high prices when they should be cheap. And people use them for days on end! They should be used and then disposed of properly. Our lack of knowledge causes us a lot of mental and physical distress.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
And nobody is there to guide them correctly. Even when doctors come here and tell me to wear a mask, I refuse. Whatever happens, happens.
Devotee:
But Master, you're here in this sacred space. When you're among the general public...
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Every morning, around 150 people come to see me and seek my blessings. They touch my feet and stay close. I haven't had any issues.
Devotee:
That's because you have your own spiritual power, and the Divine Mother is protecting you.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
It's about the immunity that the Mother provides me through these rituals. Thereâs no point in arguing about it. God was, is, and will always be. Everything happens according to His will. Not even a leaf falls without His command. People spend so much money on treatments and still don't survive, yet you don't see people living on the streets being as affected by the virus. Can you show me one person on the street who died of it? Our lifestyleâthe air conditioning, the processed foodâthat's where the trouble starts.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
The most important thing is to stay connected with God. He is the one who gives you true immunity. Come and sit with us; you won't feel the need for a mask.
Devotee:
Master, if people follow your example and stop wearing masks in public, it could lead to problems. You have a special protection here, but others might not.
S. P. Mukherjee:
Bambaba isn't against masks. He's saying that we often ignore the more important things and focus on the wrong ones. Of course, you should follow the rules, but he believes the Mother's power is supreme. He doesn't tell others not to wear masks; in fact, many people here are wearing them. He just finds it easier to talk without one. We shouldn't ignore science, just as we shouldn't ignore God.
Devotee:
Today we heard from both of them. We haven't officially introduced our guest yet. Could you please tell us your name?
S. P. Mukherjee:
S. P. Mukherjee.
Devotee:
Thank you, Master, and thank you, Mr. Mukherjee. It was a pleasure having you here at Shanti Kunj. My respects to both of you.
Guru Shyama Khyapa:
Blessings to you, child.